Pastor Rick gets the gig

Not that anyone gives a rip what I think about this, but I have no problem with Obama’s choice to have Warren give the invocation at his inauguration. If both the right and left are pissed off, Obama’s on the right track. The thing thats really got me is why so many evangelicals find Warren so authoritative.

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11 thoughts on “Pastor Rick gets the gig

  1. I’ve been trying to search the internet for the horrible homophobic things that Warren has said, but can’t find anything other then him thinking homosexuality is a sin, but not one that’s any worse than anything he’s committed himself. Yes, he opposed Prop 8, but his reasons don’t seem to come from hate, which is what everyone seems to be accusing him of. He doesn’t want them to be able to “marry” (and of course, you’ve posted and most of us agree the solution isn’t that hard). Where was Obama on this issue, anyway? He’s for civil unions, and not calling it “marriage” as well. Why is the homosexual community not mad at that?

    I’m with you. If people on both sides are pissed, he’s probably making most of us happy…the ones in the middle with level heads on our shoulders.

    And the reason so many find him authoritative is because he wrote a book that most people read instead of the bible. Not saying Rick is somehow bad for that, but its just how it goes.

  2. “The thing that’s really got me is why so many evangelicals find Warren so authoritative”
    because he’s sold millions of books, which is the true indicator of authority!

    Rocksteady,
    Danno~

  3. @Blake : http://www.pensitoreview.com/2008/12/18/rick-warren-compares-gay-marriage-to-incest-pedophila/
    not only the video, but read the rest. i can find you the rest of the video if ya need.
    the real money quote from the article i linked :
    “…marriage was redefined in the 1967, when the Supreme Court overturned laws against inter-racial marriage in Loving v. Virginia. … Pastor Rick is glad marriage was redefined that way, but changing it to accommodate gay rights goes too far.”

    priceless.

    Rocksteady,
    Danno~

  4. Hey, what happened to my comment i posted? i aked you to reconsider your position and read some posts on my blog as to why we in the LGBTQ community are pissed off.

    Warren associated homosexuality with pedophilia, incest and bestiality. the video is on my blog.

    EP

  5. Hey Zach,

    I’m with you on this one. As a member of the homosexual community, I am NOT pissed off or angered at this choice. Barack is our President, not our Gay President, and our country has much, much bigger issues to deal with than a president’s stance. I do agree with idea that the LGBT community needs to back off a bit, and let us be happy with the progress that has been made in the country. It would be dangerous to swing from one side of the pendulum (a president who puts conservative special interests in front of EVERYTHING else) to a president who puts liberal special interests in front of EVERYTHING else. I think our LGBT community needs to recognize that, and support Barack in his choice of Warren. If we create a country that has a stable nature rather than a polarized nature, maybe we THEN can move forward and actually have an overall progressive country. It would be completely hypocritical of the LGBT community to assume the special place that they once blasted the religious right for having – we would be no better than our enemies in that aspect.

    Just a thought. 🙂

  6. Yes, but think about how we in the lGBTQ community were JUST kicked in the teeth by the passage of Prop 8 and Warren supported Prop 8 and IS a homophobe! So by inviting Warren it is just another kicking us in the teeth so close together! Now think about that!

    EP

  7. I can understand the frustration. Would there be other options I would have liked better, sure. But I think the critics are losing sight of the fact that Obama has proven he’ll be the most gay friendly president in our nation’s history. I don’t think him choosing Warren changes that one bit. Warren’s position on SSM or even civil unions will not prove victorious in the long run. Being worried about Warren’s view on this issue is the equivalent of expecting Mac OS 9 to make a comeback.

  8. is rick warren really a homophobe? he may be, but i’d like to see some concrete proof other than the fact that he doesn’t want to redefine marriage. there may be some that i missed. it wouldn’t shock me to the core if that were the case. but that’s not the point. this seems to be part of a larger problem within this discussion.

    just throwing that term around doesn’t help anyone. even though a person’s reasons for supporting prop 8 might not be legit (because there aren’t really any legit reasons to support it), it doesn’t make them a homophobe out of the gate.

    making/perpetuating vague generalizations about people who don’t agree with you is a fairly large part of what got us in this mess, and it’s certainly not going to get anyone out of it.

    calling a prop 8 supporter a homophobe is no different than someone calling a homosexual person a slutty deviant. it’s completely baseless.

    are some prop 8 supporters homophobes? sure. but as they say, all squares are rectangles, but not all rectangles are squares.

  9. I understand EP’s frustration with this.
    And I understand why Obama picked him.
    It is too bad he couldn’t have found some other evangelical pastor who hadn’t been YouTubed saying his views about homosexuality.

  10. *Sean*, Rick Warren has publically associated homosexual activity with bestiality and pedophilia. He sees no difference between sex involving two consenting adults of the same gender and the rape of a child by an adult.

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